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Synopsis Another Friday night with Pierre and members of the NS. We take a look at Plato's Parmenides , 3rd hypothesis. Highlights Reading. Rest, Motion, Self, Logos 7:55pm Praise the Logos? Instant/Gap? 7:56pm According to this argument, Time is an illusion 7:58pm We infer motion. But each frame is separate and distinct, has its own mode of being, as determined by the Logos 8:03pm a snapshot 8:04pm now go back and look at Plotinus 6.2.21 8:19pm what is Plotinus doing? Can we relate it to what is going on in the Third Hypothesis? Resources Plato. Parmenides . Balboa Translation Plotinus. Enneads. 6.2.21. Balboa Translation . Please see our NS Reading List for alternate translations of these works. Original Location https://archive.org/details/20210507NSFRI Usage License CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 International License Please Help Support the Project Do you enjoy our free audios and videos? Please consider supporting Pierre, the NS, and our archiving activity by giving a small amount monthly to support our work. Go to noeticsociety.org and the 'Support the Project' section. Look for the Paypal or other link. We'd love it if you chose to 'Make this a monthly donation', as well -- rather than just one-time -- in whatever small amount is within your regular monthly budget. Also, please consider donating to the Internet Archive , which stores our work here free of charge, as well. Thank you! More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.

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( The Enneads Of Plotinus With Philosophical Commentaries) Plotinus, Stephen R. L. Clark (translator) Ennead VI. 9 On The Good Or The One Parmenides Publishing ( 2020)

Work: enneads Sections: V.2.1 (Ennead 5, Treatise/Tractate 2, Chapter 1) Text Used: The Essential Plotinus , Elmer O'Brien, transl. ISBN-13: 978-0915144099 ISBN-10: 0915144093 [Thanks to StefanR for Title and Sections] More info: http://noeticsociety.org

Dialogue(s): enneads Chapters: IV.8.5-8 (Ennead 4, Treatise/Tractate 8, Chapters 5 to 8) Text Used: The Essential Plotinus , Elmer O'Brien, transl. ISBN-13: 978-0915144099 ISBN-10: 0915144093 [Thanks to StefanR for Title and Sections] More info: http://noeticsociety.org

Dialogue(s): enneads Chapters: 6.2 2nd in the series of Plotinus 6.2 talks.  The first talk and link to the Balboa translation is here . More info: http://noeticsociety.org

Bibliography p. xxxi-xxxii

Bibliography p. xxxi-xxxii

Synopsis Another fun Friday night with Pierre and members of the NS. Highlights Warm-up chat: previously-announced seminar that didn't happen DavidC: the Vatican, and studying Latin in Rome Dream Exploration: Barbara Dream Exploration: Bradley 8:40 More time with Plotinus 6.2.21 Identify the activity of “seeing” repeatedly in this article Line up with each one of them, what is being done The Intellect (nous) is a Whole, full of intelligences/ideas/beholdings (not concepts), each of which is a self How four ideas can produce things They all arise at once: Bang! Seeing number (since intelligences is plural) Later, we'll be returning to Parmenides’ 3rd hypothesis, based on this section Each intelligence/idea/beholding/self is a power . Great/greatness/magnitude: all one word in Greek: μεγα (mega) Back to Book 7 of Plato's Republic : Arithmetic: Main training: What, after all, is the One Self? "Now then, by Seeing This Greatness..": Draw the three thinγs ενεργειας (full-flowering of potentiality) quality therefore quantity therefore shape differences, distinctions In the Ideas the Power of the Self Quality, Quantity, Difference, and Magnitude (DC) Self - the transition between the 1 and the Logos Dream Texts Barbara’s Dream -- Wed 24 Mar 2021 In this dream there were a few of us listening to Pierre, and talking with Pierre. And at a certain point in the talk Pierre was speaking of—it was as if it was on two levels and on one of the levels, the higher, he was talking about the transmission of knowledge to “Noetics” [the kind of people who were present], that there was a transmission to all “Noetics”. And I had this image of kind of a parabola, that showed the outline, part of a parabola. In the dream it just showed this arc coming out, the transmission falling from it like rain would fall. And he was talking about it and I asked him about it and he was agreeing that I was seeing what he was saying and he went on to talk about it some more. At that point I missed something in what he was saying. I couldn’t quite hear it, so I asked him to repeat it, but he didn’t repeat it, he just kind of nodded. And I tried to express what I was seeing the best that I could, and he was nodding as I spoke. He [spoke] about two places, as if those two places . . . At first, I thought they were bookstores. But later it seemed they were bookstores, or centers where you could. . . It was like they were somewhere in between where you could find knowledge of this sort being distributed, and he talked about [and named them]. One of them, the first I’m not recalling right now [Flash?] but the second was called Sparkle and the first one also had a one word name. And I was asking him about where they were. I was saying “Well, in California?” And he agreed to that. And he was in a very reflective place where he seemed to be following both the words and the higher level of meaning at the time. That was the dream. Bradley's Dream Running with this person PMW them Resources Plotinus: Tonight we used the Balboa translation See our NS Reading List for other translations Original Location https://archive.org/details/20210326NSFRI Usage License CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 International License Please Help Support the Project Do you enjoy our free audios and videos? Please consider supporting Pierre, the NS, and our archiving activity by giving a small amount monthly to support our work. Go to noeticsociety.org and the 'Support the Project' section. Look for the Paypal or other link. We'd love it if you chose to 'Make this a monthly donation', as well -- rather than just one-time -- in whatever small amount is within your regular monthly budget. Also, please consider donating to the Internet Archive , which stores our work here free of charge, as well. Thank you! More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.

Usage License CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 International License Please Help Support the Project Like these videos? Please consider supporting Pierre, the NS, and our archiving activity by giving a small amount monthly to support our work. Go to noeticsociety.org and then click on the Paypal (or other) link under "Support the Project" section. Then check "Make this a monthly donation". Synopsis Pierre takes the study group through reading of Plotinus Ennead V.1.6-7. These are difficult chapters with very good questions and positions. Three translations are compared, and they clearly also differ, depending on each translator's insight. Regina brings up a good question on insight and the testing of a kensho by the roshi (in a zendo). Discussion devolves into a discussion of hallucinogenic drug research. Study Materials A.H. Armstrong translation Loeb Classical Library ISBN-10: 0674994892 ISBN-13: 978-0674994898 Stephen MacKenna and B.S. Page translation Plotinus -- Great Books of the Western World, Volume 17 -- The Six Enneads Hardcover – 1952 Publisher: Encyclopaedia Britannica; NEWER SERIES edition (1952) Elmer O'Brien translation The Essential Plotinus, 2nd ed., 1964 ISBN 0915144107 (cloth) ISBN 0915144093 (paperback) Hackett Publishing Co. Highlights 0:00:30 - Intro discussion playing with the ideas of something and nothing. 0:06:00 - Start of reading chapter 6, comparing all 3 translations. 0:27:15 - Start of reading chapter 7, musing for 21 more minutes. 0:48:35 - PG starts the discussion: If anything goes on in your mind, do you instantly recognize it? 0:51:45 - Is there an intellect functioning in the mind? 0:53:00 - Is there recognition all the time? 0:58:00 - Pierre has run across one in the group (I don't know who this is, and he is down in front, off camera) who cannot conclude (i.e., make affirmative statements without qualifications). While they have a lot of fun with it, the implication is that this is clearly a pathologos and thus an invitation to philosophical midwifery. But they do not go there, instead continuing on with the topic at hand. 0:59:50 - What name do you want to give to the thing that is doing all this recognizing? "Intellect"? 1:00:30 - Can you be aware of doing the recognizing, while the recognizing is going on? 1:01:00 - "Intellection"? 1:02:45 - Is whatever appears in the mind a product of the mind? A product of what? Intellect? 1:04:00 - For this intellect to do what it's doing, it itself isn't one of these things, because that's the product of it. Thus intellect is not in the same class. 1:06:30 - If this is the Intellect, and you want to say there is something that is witnessing it (or aware of it), what then do you want to call that ? 1:10:15 - Two levels of recognition. Higher level is "the witness". 1:12:00 - Kensho experience 1:14:00 - Levels of reflection and self-reflection 1:17:00 - Recognizing unities 1:19:00 - Is there a difference between an idea/thought of a soul vs an image of a soul? 1:20:20 - Are thoughts different than images? 1:23:00 - The nature of insights 1:25:40 - Three levels of cognition 1:27:00 - dialogue with Regina on what witnesses an insight, and on whether a person's answer to a koan can show the roshi the depth of a person's insight/kensho/satori 1:43:15 - Communicating an experience of Mu 1:43:49 - Rod Wallbank's tape, and his story of listening to KPFK/Roy-of-Hollywood, about the McKenna brothers (Terence and Dennis) and their research into ayahuasca and pharmacology, and the central role words/logos play in these experiences. (Their original 1975 Book -- "The Invisible Landscape: Mind, Hallucinogens, and the I Ching", Seabury Press (ISBN-10: 0816492492, ISBN-13: 978-0816492497). 1994 HarperOne reprint -- ISBN-10: 0062506358, ISBN-13: 978-0062506351), and discussion of various psychedelic drugs 1:58:00 - Plans for the upcoming New Years Eve More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.

Dialogue(s): enneads;timaeus Chapters: IV.8.1-4 (Ennead 4, Treatise/Tractate 8, Chapters 1 through 4) Text Used: The Essential Plotinus , Elmer O'Brien, transl. ISBN-13: 978-0915144099 ISBN-10: 0915144093 [Thanks to StefanR for Title and Sections] More info: http://noeticsociety.org

Synopsis Another Saturday morning chat with Pierre and members of the NS. We continue reading in Plotinus’ Sixth Ennead, Tractate 2, Chapter 21 (and a little bit of the end of Chapter 20). Highlights 09:58am PDT warm-up: PMW with Regina on insights she is having while reading Plato and Plotinus, and the family pathologos, “Don't think you know so/too much” 10:20 Stanley: Plotinus and meditation 10:22 Kate: reading and being smart in her family 10:25 Barbara on Loeb (grammatical structure) vs Balboa (metaphysics, content) translation of Plotinus Plotinus: we need to see 10:40 Phaedo: we don't experience the word “equal”, though we use the word 10:46 Plotinus as a meditation: Start with “Equal”, and go through each of the qualities that he has outlined 10:47 With equality, what can you do with Euclid? What does it add? beauty, greatness, order (e.g., only 5 regular solids) Goal of Euclid to show the intellectual structure of all forms, and they are all coming out of “equal” 10:55 Re-starting the reading of the 6.2.21 passage, and finding any questions/problems 10:57 what does he mean by “partial beings”? (and Cathy's question: Is he referring to souls?) 11:01 we don't know our boundary. Where should you reach to make sure you've got your limit (to self)? 11:03 David: the “One” can be: one, monad, unified, all, many -- or all of those 11:08 we do not appreciate that we are in two worlds 11:09 6.2.20 last line 11:14 KevinG: But how do you get the vision? 11:26 Continuing reading (re-starting 6.2.21) 11:34 "at once" 11:37 what's he doing with “number”? 11:42 how does “power” enter into the realm of the intelligence? 11:43 in the greek metaphysics, you have to be in the 2nd hypothesis to understand what he means by “power”, and to understand the connection he is making. Number comes into existence in terms of the 2nd hyp. In order to see how number is related to metaphysics/existence He (Plato/Parmenides) is going to show you that there are only 3 ideas you need to understand the 2nd hypothesis: one, being, and difference 10:45 These can be paired with one another, forming 6 pairs, and only a certain set of numbers can be associated with each one of those pairs 10:47 he generates all the numbers (in this exercies) that would fill mean analogies ONLY two orders of numbers: those that fit (his set), and those that do not (all number) 1,2,3,4,6,8,9: arithmetic, geometric, harmonic so Plato/Parmenides has this going from the 2nd into the 3rd, and Plotinus knows this 11:50 Can people do things with numbers that give them powers? 11:52 Ideas don't have power, right? 11:53 (with Regina) On “Equal”: What difference did today's reading make? 11:55 is Euclid appearing to teach us geometry, but is actually giving us a model for how to understand ? Post-discussion 11:58 JulieH and KevinG talking about their interactions with students 12:00 Barbara on axioms as a class of belief necessary for all the propositions: freeing 12:02 DavidC on Euclid's Proposition 4, and Tufts made a mistake (Heath got it) 12:05 Regina on Barbara's insight 12:08 end Original Location https://archive.org/details/20210508NSSAT Usage License CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 International License Please Help Support the Project Do you enjoy our free audios and videos? Please consider supporting Pierre, the NS, and our archiving activity by giving a small amount monthly to support our work. Go to noeticsociety.org and the 'Support the Project' section. Look for the Paypal or other link. We'd love it if you chose to 'Make this a monthly donation', as well -- rather than just one-time -- in whatever small amount is within your regular monthly budget. Also, please consider donating to the Internet Archive , which stores our work here free of charge, as well. Thank you! More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.

Translation and chronological sequence of the Enneads of Plotinus by Kenneth Guthrie, 1918. This eBook is for the use of anyone anywhere at no cost and with almost no restrictions whatsoever. You may copy it, give it away or re-use it under the terms of the Project Gutenberg License

Translation and chronological sequence of the Enneads of Plotinus by Kenneth Guthrie, 1918. This eBook is for the use of anyone anywhere at no cost and with almost no restrictions whatsoever. You may copy it, give it away or re-use it under the terms of the Project Gutenberg License